Classic C23 Citadel Ogres for Kings of War – Unit 1

C23 Hrothyogg, Ogre Captain. Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

Hrothyogg, Ogre Captain. Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

As mentioned before, I’m building an Ogre army for Mantic Games‘ Kings of War, since pictures of it in play seem to give off an old-school Warhammer 3rd Edition vibe in a lot of ways, and the game allows pretty free proxying of models, so you can use whatever you like and feel is cool. I put together and painted a couple of units of Mantic’s new Ogre Shooter models recently.

C23 Hrothyogg, Ogre Captain. Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

The main reason I started Ogres though, was to have a reason/excuse to get out my classic Citadel Ogre models that I’d just painted for the pleasure of it. All of them painted between 10 and 23 years ago. I’ve also got several that are still unpainted, and a couple that got started and never finished. With this in mind, and after some bloody stupid moves a couple of years ago when I stripped some very well painted figures from my youth in order to repaint them “modern style” that I now hugely regret, I decided not to repaint these guys, but to touch up where needed (chipped paint or toning down overly garish bits, re-highlighting metals) but to keep the essence of them as they were originally painted. So where some of the highlighting is a bit rough, or the blending on the flesh tones isn’t 100%, that stuff stays untouched. The old railway-flock bases have been redone with painted sand and tufts so they fit in with my current stuff, but that’s mostly it, aside from the touch-ups.

C23 Hrothyogg, Ogre Captain. Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

C23 Hrothyogg, Ogre Captain. Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

Look at that gorgeous face!

For the moment, he’s leading the first infantry unit. I’ve not glued him to the resin base, as I’m also considering mounting him in a chariot to be the Warlord of the entire force, as this is my favourite ogre figure ever, and also one of my favourite miniatures ever.

C23 "Bandit Ogre" Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

“Bandit Ogre” Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

I don’t know this next one’s proper name, but I’m sure he has one. Sculpted by Jes.

C23 "Bandit Ogre" Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

Bandit Ogre’s mugshot close-up!

C23 "Bandit Ogre" Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

C23 "Bandit Ogre" Sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

A slightly better look at “Bandit Ogre”s head.

I remember, I painted him from bare metal to done in a single Saturday, many years ago. Still a nice, characterful sculpt, but the memory of painting him entirely in a day especially makes him a special model to me and still gives me the warm fuzzies (though I forget the actual details of the day.)

C23 "Ogre Thug", sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

The last guy is “Ogre Thug”, another of Jes Goodwin’s.

Since I had more than one of this guy, I decided to convert him a little. I took off his helmet spike, and replaced the head of his mace with a hammer head from some other random figure. This one got painted around 1996 during or just after the Atlanta Olympics, since I gave him an Aussie flag tattoo, as so many of our athletes of the time were wearing on their right shoulders. Also, a big tribal piece, since that was the fashion of the time, and, you know, Ogre.

C23 "Ogre Thug", sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

“Ogre Thug” tattoo shot.

C23 "Ogre Thug", sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

C23 "Ogre Thug", sculpted by Jes Goodwin.

“Ogre Thug” Close-up.

His tribal tattoo is based off an actual tattoo I saw/had a photo of at the time. Can’t recall if it was a musician, etc or just a random person, though.

Lastly, a couple of unit shots. (click for bigger!)

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn, c23 Ogre

Hrothyogg’s Ogres – (Version 1) front view.

Oldhammer Ogre, Ogryn, c23 Ogre

Ogres ready to Rhumba!

 

Ogre Index:

Jes Goodwin Classic Citadel Ogres #1

Bob Olley’s Classic Citadel Ogres

Golfag’s Ogre Mercenaries

Mantic’s Ogre Shooters: Units 1 and 2.  And Based.

Mantic Ogre WIP 1 (and army concepts/some of the other ogres pre-touchup and rebasing)

Mantic Ogre WIP 2

 

Mantic Ogre Shooters – Blunderbuss and Crossbows – Finished!

Kings of War Mantic Ogre Shooters - Blunderbuss and Crossbows

Well, after putting a whole lot of time into them this weekend, and now some finishing off time today, I’ve finally finished the first 6 Ogres. Yes, they took me the better part of a month to do. I’m not fast, but in my defence, despite being pretty happy with the way they turned out, I found them an absolute bear to paint, My problems with them are twofold. Actually, threefold:

1) Too much fine detail. I really like Remy’s sculpts in general, and these guys look quite good if you can get past the Johnny Bravo proportions and knocked knees. The thing is he overdoes the tiny details, which are then shrunk down even more by the restic that Mantic use. There are WAY too damn many buckles and studs on the leather straps and such. If there were just a couple of figures, as in individuals, or commander-types then I’d have no problem here, but as rank & file, it’s just maddening to have to paint.

2) Arms across their bodies – Since these are missile troops, they have their arms across their bodies as they hold their blunderbusses and crossbows. it exacerbates the issues above and makes them far, far more painful to paint than open-armed ones like the melee models would be.

3) Not enough variety. Three torsos used and reused for the BB, Xbow, 1h&S, 2h and “hero” models that are also quite specific in their details and poses, paired with a total of 6 unique heads – only 2 of which I particularly like, and a couple that are awful. Then one set of arms each for the crossbows and blunderbusses. This is going to mean a hell of a lot of repetition. There;s also not a lot that can be done with them. I’ll be chopping topknots and trying to figure out how to apply helmets to these guys as I assemble more, though the GW OK models’ heads are a touch too large to use. Yes, the GW OK bodies are also very limited in posing, but they seem to make up for it with a large variety of arms, weapons, heads, gutplates and the like.

Let’s add one more point:

4) I need to paint another 6 of them – 3 more of each. D’oh!

I’ll be doing them next, so I can put painting Mantic’s Ogre Shooters behind me for awhile.

Anyway, enough of my bitching. At least the bright side is they turned out pretty well, so I’m happy with them in the end. I did enjoy assembling them and even needing to heat up each piece in very hot water was a bit of fun, as it allowed me to somewhat vary their arm poses slightly.

Kings of War Mantic Ogre Shooters - Crossbows

Kings of War Mantic Ogre Shooters - Crossbows

The light is a bit glarey in these photos, but it’s the best I could do today. It’s creating a bit more contrast than I’d like, but that’s life. The figures still need a couple of final things done to completely finish them. First they need to be varnished. I wanted to get the photos before the matt varnish flattens out my blending – something that always annoys me – and following that I’ll be adding some tufts (sorry Cash – I like ’em!) and then some weathering powder to dirty up their feet and blend them in with their bases a little.

Kings of War Mantic Ogre Shooters - Blunderbuss Kings of War Mantic Ogre Shooters - Blunderbuss

I also found my Pin Vice this morning, as well as some larger bits, so I drilled out the barrels of the blunderbusses. I think I mentioned it before, but I ended up basing these on Citadel 40mm square bases for consistency in the force, which is largely made up otherwise of the classic GW models.

Kings of War Mantic Ogre Shooters - Blunderbuss and Crossbows

I’ll take some new group shots down the line when the whole 600-pt Army is finished. And then again when it bumps to 1200 and 2000pts. As you can see, these figures could be easily proxied into Warhammer Fantasy Battle if you want a different look to the Ogre Kingdoms models. Additionally, since it’s been Kings of War Week over on Beasts of War, I thought I’d throw them a link since I’m painting these Mantic Ogres for a KoW list anyway, so whoring myself out slightly is a no-harm, no-foul kinda situation in context…

Ogre Index:

Jes Goodwin Classic Citadel Ogres #1

Bob Olley’s Classic Citadel Ogres

Golfag’s Ogre Mercenaries

Mantic’s Ogre Shooters: Units 1 and 2.  And Based.

Mantic Ogre WIP 1 (and army concepts/some of the other ogres pre-touchup and rebasing)

Mantic Ogre WIP 2