(Yet another unit of) Mantic Zombies! (6-Month Tale of Gamers Challenge)

This is what I’d planned for my Spooky Halloween post! Zombies! Yes, I finished these that long ago. Instead, it’s my Christmas Eve post, because… Zombies?

In any case, best wishes for Christmas to all the regular readers of this blog, and people who stumble across this post later on down the line will simply have to accept them as a snapshot in time.

Now that I have some time off work, I’ll be able to take photos more frequently, and so once the small backlog of painted stuff is gotten rid of, I’ll be much more up to date. I’ve got a couple of mat reviews I’m keen to get onto as well, but it won’t be until next week that I get a chance to go out to the War Room and start cleaning it up (which it needs, bigtime!)

So anyway, these guys were started right on the heels of the second dozen zombies I painted for KoW, back around May. While the plan originally called for a fourth set to follow these – making either 4 regiments or 2 hordes in KoW terms, my Zombienthusiasm is pretty much completely sapped now, as opposed to fired up after finishing the first dozen Zombies. The Mantic figures are nice ones, but there are so few interesting combinations, even with Mantic’s Ghoul parts thrown into the mix.

Mantic Games Zombies, WGF Warlord Zombie Vixens

As you can see, I went even further afield for kitbash parts on these guys. The additional parts beyond the Mantic Ghouls this time came from Mantic’s Sci-Fi zombie sprue, the new(ish) Citadel Ghouls, and two crawlers drawn from Wargames Factory’s Zombie Vixen set who can be seen at either extreme of the crawlers above. I wanted a little bit of gender representation, and the closest I could really find were the WGF set, which is, well, a little average. The figures are a little bit too sexualised overall, but more importantly are verrry spindly compared to even the Mantic models, so the only ones that really were able to fit in were a couple of crawlers.

Mantic Games Zombies, WGF Warlord Zombie Vixens

As you can see above, I finally found that errant model that went missing from the very first dozen, and so he got finished as well alongside these guys – next to his twin. I guess the next batch will only need to be 11 zombies, then. My favourite amongst these 5 has to be the one reaching for the sky. I rotated the “base” and added a bloodied femur out front this time to give a different “sitting down” look rather than just going with the usual crawler setup as I did with the wonder twins next to him.

Mantic Games Zombies

The second rank has what are probably two of my favourite zombies of all the ones I’ve painted. The gruesome fellow dragging along half of a well-chewed corpse, and one I call “go home zombie, you’re drunk!”. The stein comes from a plastic GW dwarf kit while the arm-with-meal comes from the current GW zombie kit, as does the ruined face which fits zombies much more than ghouls for me at least.

Mantic Games Zombies

The legs on the two leftmost models both come from Mantic’s sci-fi zombies kit, but they’re generic enough to fit in here. I’ve continued to simply use dark grey/black rags for my zombies rather than a more realistic option of mixed clothing for equal parts “night horror” and “army colours” reasons.

Mantic Games Zombies

Finally, we have the rear rank. An overly-hunched over female sci-fi zombie torso and head, another dismembered pair of legs (because I am nothing if not economical with my model parts!), another sci-fi zombie torso mounted on fantasy legs and super-dynamic zombie. Unfortunately I couldn’t get the camera low enough to really capture the details of all their heads and faces. The sci-fi model chewing on …something is an odd duck, with poorly-defined details, so you’re not quite sure if he has a gigantic mutant mouth or has a normal one and is simply pulling the sinewy muscle up from his hands. I just covered the whole mess in blood in the end and stopped worrying about it.

Mantic Games Zombies

He looks pretty decent from the back, though. Nice bit of spinal detail that once properly gored up makes him a good choice for the rear rank.

Mantic Games Zombies

And now we finish up in the usual manner. Group shot and unit shots. Once I get at least another dozen zombies done, I’ll take another big group shot of the two hordes. After doing a fourth dozen Mantic zombies, I’ll probably do some Citadel zombies and see how a couple dozen of that very different style of model turns out.

Mantic Games Zombies Kings of War Regiment

Mantic Games Zombies Kings of War Regiment

Mantic Games Zombies Kings of War Regiment

 

(Another unit of) Mantic Zombies! (6-Month Tale of Gamers Challenge)

Following on from the initial regiment/dozen Zombies that I painted last month, I started a follow-up regiment at the end of last month. The idea being that they could be used as two regiments – or more likely – combined into one horde (by keeping the regiment trays together). They would have been finished on the first weekend of this month, but instead I got them finished last night after work.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

More Zombies!

This mob has been painted in much the same manner as the first dozen. Some coloured base coats, Army Painter washes (mostly purples this time), a bit of highlighting, then the clothing in a dark grey, washed with black/brown and then picking out the eyes, teeth, bone and wounds. Then varnish, flock, and Blood for the Blood God to finish.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Something, something Zombies.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Putty for intestines, and snapped off limbs leave a bone-like protusion.

The first dozen were essentially painted with what I can lazily refer to as “green”, “pink” and “grey” skin. This second batch can be summed up as “yellow” and “purple”. After being photographed on their own to show off, these guys have been mixed with the first batch to give a bit more variety. Once I start the third batch, whenever that turns out to be, they’ll primarily be another two skin tones. At that point I’ll do “brown” and “red” (or something) and then in turn mix those in with these guys. That was as I continue to paint more zombies, the overall variety will increase over time. I’ll probably take a bit of a longer break before I do the next two dozen, though…

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

A bit of bloody paint splatter makes a nice final touch.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Another dismembered zombie, and one that’s just a pile of viscera.

These models are probably the nicest of Mantic’s undead range – I’ve been finding that their skeletons are far less fun to paint than I’d expected – but the limited number of parts is less than ideal, so I’ve mixed in a fair few of their Ghoul parts.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Temporary unit shots, showing just these twelve.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

And the reverse shot…

The unit shots of these guys were just taken for this blog post, as right afterwards, I mixed the models from the two zombie units so far, in order to mix the skin tones up a little more.

The completed Horde of Zombies!

 

And here they are!

(A unit of) Mantic Zombies! (6-Month Tale of Gamers Challenge)

In much the same way as I’ve grown sick of painting plastic Gondor dudes over the past few months, I’ve grown equally sick of painting Skeletons. As the time counted down for April, I happened to spot a pair of Zombies sitting randomly amongst the painted undead out in the War room. I’d painted the pair one weekend last year after seeing them randomly sitting on my painting desk, partly-done. So with absolutely no randomness this time, I grabbed out a couple of Mantic’s Zombie (and one Ghoul) sprues, clipped a few off, cleaned up the bits, and then assembled them, attempting to build as many unique figures as possible while bringing the total to 12. Not all that easy, as the Mantic Zombie sprue is pretty limited. The parts from the ghouls aren’t a terribly hard kitbash, but I did find that the kits weren’t designed with inter-compatibility in mind when they were originally tooled and sculpted. Mantic weren’t all that forward-thinking at the time, I guess.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Zombies!

Now, we all know that a mere dozen Zombies isn’t all that many, even when reprsenting “20” on a regmient base. I reckon I’ll slowly build up a tarpit unit of Zombies, a dozen at a time over the course of whenever I feel like painting more zombies. I know I could churn out a ton of decent looking ones very quickly via “the dip”, but somehow I managed to really quite enjoy painting that first pair last year, so I decided to paint them via brush instead.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Zombies hunger for the flesh of the living.

Having said all of that, the Army Painter Washes did most of the heavy lifting. After basecoating the flesh in various mixtures of Vallejo Model Air: Sand, Aged White, Duck Egg Green and AP Camo Green and VGC Off White for flavour. Then AP Purple Wash, Green Wash and some Lahmian Medium. For the rags I continued with the “army palette” of dirty dark grey to stand in for black, rather than a more realistic various shades of brown. Once again, I mixed up some greys, this time adding Sand for the hightlight mix colour, so as to avoid a monochomatic grey. Dark Tone AP wash to finish off.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

These three Zombies have already acquired their lunch for today.

Next up was painting in the exposed bone and various bits of exposed muscle and offal, then lightening or blackening the edges of some of the torn flesh as I felt appropriate. Did the “lunch” portions of those who have been dismembered by the zombies in slightly “fresher” skin tones, and then did a little work picking out teeth and eyes and hair. I added a bit of bruised skin via additional brown-purple washes on many of the models, though it’s a bit hard to see in these particular images.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Mantic’s zombies are limited, but being HIPS, offer versatility.

Finally, I matt varnished them, and once dry, went in for a bit of fun with the Blood Effect paint. In this case, Citadel’s Blood for the Blood God.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

A dismembered pair…

I think the most surprising thing about these guys was just how easy and more importantly – fun they were to do. So much that I’m tempted to start another unit of 12, which I’ll them be able to combine with these guys into a horde.

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Zombie regiment on the warpath!

Here’s the traditional regiment shots. Another use for these models is to use them for Zombicide Black Plague. I’m tempted, but the fingers on them are pretty fine and fragile. When I was clipping and assembling them I’ve already managed to break a few off – so I just painted the stumps bloody – fits zombies, anyway – but with the amount of rough handling the Zombicide models get, it might not be such a good idea to use these guys in the game…

Mantic Zombies, Vampire Counts, Zombicide Black Plague, Deadwalkers

Yep, this unit was very much an enjoyable time.

 

 

Zombicide “Rick” and Angry Mary

A couple more Zombicide survivors today – the last two from the previous batch.

Rick” is a homage to Jason Statham as Chev Chelios from the 2009 Film “Crank 2: High Voltage“.

aka Jason Statham as Chev Chelios from Crank 2, Zombicide

Zombicide “Rick” and Zombivor version.

It seems that Statham’s outfit from Crank is a somewhat popular “costume” for people to wear. I guess it’s pretty flexible and a lot more subtle than going somewhere dressed as a Jedi. Turns out that in the second film, he had some fairly distinctive shoes because product placement. No matter to me, and as they have a look I can replicate on the model, so much the better

 

Angry Mary is an original Zombicide survivor, from the Karl Kopinski guest artist box.

Angry Mary – a Karl Kopinski Original Survivor for Zombicide

Mary is a popular character whenever one of us manages to draw her, and from our early games kind of defaulted to Marouda’s Zombpocalypse proxy, especially since Marouda managed to draw Angry Mary pretty regularly. So Mary has her combat boots painted as Marouda’s purple Doc Martens in a semi-subtle nod.

Zombicide Jason Statham as Chev Chelios from Crank 2, Angry Mary by Karl Kopinski

Orez and Marouda’s favourite survivors, ready for action.

Zombicide Jason Statham as Chev Chelios from Crank 2, Angry Mary by Karl Kopinski

…and the results of a couple of unfortunate Zombie Spawn draws.

Zombicide figures are odd ducks. They have some really well done, subtle truescale details like the folds in clothing while at the same time often having soft details on faces and weapons. It’s a limitation of the PVC that they are made from, and while they’re pretty much the best boardgame models I’ve used or painted, I still don’t entirely enjoy painting them in the same way that I do with a metal, HIPS or resin model. Still, they get a lot of use on my tabletop, so if anything deserves to keep a priority rating in my painting (such as it is), then these figures do.

Mary’s black fatigues and gloves are pretty dark, though they are highlighted subtly, and in a way to preserve them being black as opposed to grey. I’m just not fond of the whole “shade to white” thing that’s very popular on my own models. Statham’s dark blue jacket gave me the same kind of difficulty. For a change, the photography seems to have picked both out decently.

 

Zombicide “Will” and “Helen”

I’ve finally finished some of the second batch of Zombicide survivors (and Zombivors) that I started bloody ages ago.

Will” is a homage to Simon Helberg as Howard Wolowitz from the popular Television program “The Big Bang Theory“.

aka Simon Helberg as Howard Walowitz from The Big Bang Theory

Zombicide “Will” and Zombivor Version.

I went for one of Howard’s less outrageous outfits for this figure, partly for ease of painting and partly because we actually have to play as him, so… you know.

Howard Walowitz’ shoes. One pair of them, anyway.

I also googled Howard’s shoes, so that I’d have appropriate footwear for him to wear. I think I did a pretty good job of replicating his Vans sneakers. I also attempted to give his belt buckle the impression of Howard’s NES controller belt buckle, but it’s hard because we’re talking pretty bloody small at this stage.

 

Helen” is a homage to Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling from The Silence of the Lambs (1992).

I think there’s a touch of Ally Walker as June Stahl from Sons of Anarchy in there as well. Particularly on the artwork.

aka Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling from The Silence of the Lambs - or Ally Walker as June Stahl from Sons of Anarchy

Zombicide “Helen” and Zombivor Version.

Zombicide’s Helen. Possibly.

I think Jodie/Clarice is the more obvious influence, especially with “Achilles” being a clear Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter, but there’s still a solid similarity there, and I probably would still have painted the model in the brown late 80’s/early ’90s style suit, but if I had a second figure to paint, I’d definitely paint her as Stahl.

Zombicide Simon Helberg as Howard Walowitz from The Big Bang Theory, Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling from The Silence of the Lambs - or Ally Walker as June Stahl from Sons of Anarchy

Our Brave Survivors…

Zombicide Simon Helberg as Howard Walowitz from The Big Bang Theory, Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling from The Silence of the Lambs - or Ally Walker as June Stahl from Sons of Anarchy

…and their unpleasant eventual fate.

With a bit of luck, I’ll have two more finished in a week or two. I’ll probably have the last of the dogs finished before then, though – so they’ll likely be shown first.

 

Zombicide “Fred”, “Don” and “Rob”

Since my group has been playing a fair bit of Zombicide over the past couple of months, and starting to paint the figures was one of the things that got me restarted with painting models, I’m showing off the first three here. I’m painting S2 Survivors & Zombvivors rather than the S1 figures because I’m painting them in their pairs and we haven’t cracked open the S2 box(es) yet and so don’t have their Zombvivors out.

 

Fred” is a homage to Simon Pegg as Shaun from “Shaun of the Dead” (2004)

aka Simon Pegg as Shaun from Shaun of the Dead

Zombicide “Fred” and Zombvivor version

 

I took Shaun’s black pants as a little challenge, as they’re quite nicely sculpted. To make them look black, (they are SO black in the film and stills) while still picking out the sculpt detail – but without resorting to typical light greys and almost-white highlights. I think I pulled it off. In contrast with the pants (and several other Zombicide figures), the sculpt on his head and face was a bit of a shambles (the artwork isn’t so hot, either!), and his cricket bat was clearly sculpted by someone who has never held or possibly even seen a real cricket bat, as the thing looks more like an American college fraternity paddle from a comedy film. I did pick out his two-tone-red tie, but I fear it is too subtle, and is lost in the general bloodstains on his clothing (taken from the point in the film where he’s using his tie as a headband).

 

Don” is a homage to everyone’s favourite hotelier – John Cleese as Basil Fawlty from Fawlty Towers (1975-1979)

aka John Cleese as Basil Fawlty from Fawlty Towers

Zombicide “Don” and Zombvivor version

As always, I googled the character before beginning to paint, and found that in most images Basil’s suit was actually grey and not the brown pictured in the Zombicide artwork. In the end I made the choice to stick with brown as a brown suit just feels so much more 1970s and “Basil Fawlty”, somehow. I did carefully copy the colours of his tricolour tie from the reference photographs, though. This figure is quite nicely sculpted as well, though I found that has face again didn’t photograph all that well. (and the figures appear shinier here than IRL). A small detail that can’t be seen here is the shine and polish on living Basil’s shoes that is absent on undead Basil’s scuffed shoes.

 

Rob” is a homage to Sean Connery as John Mason from “The Rock” (1996)

aka Sean Connery as John Mason from The Rock

Zombicide “Rob” and Zombvivor version

This was the easiest of the three to paint due to the almost entirely black outfit. I’m not really a fan of over-highlighting things, and as John Mason is supposed to be a black-ops type guy, I kept his gear nice and dark. I did pick out his medical lanyard in red, and painted his twin Uzi SMGs in Vallejo Metal Black with a highlight of gunmetal, so they’re actually far brighter than is realistic. The sculptor of this figure did a good job of picking out Connery’s trademark “smirk/people’s eyebrow” look in the sculpt, and I did an okay job of keeping it followed by an average job of photographing it. The Zombvivor also looks better in person, as shiny transparent red over dark grey/black also doesn’t photograph all that well.

 

And now a couple of group shots:

Zombicide Simon Pegg, John Cleese and Sean Connery

Zombicide Shaun of the Dead, Basil Fawlty and John Mason

Zombicide Simon Pegg, John Cleese and Sean Connery

Zombicide Shaun of the Dead, Basil Fawlty and John Mason – Rear View

Zombvivor Simon Pegg, John Cleese and Sean Connery

Zombvivor Shaun of the Dead, Basil Fawlty and John Mason

Zombvivor Simon Pegg, John Cleese and Sean Connery

Zombvivor Shaun of the Dead, Basil Fawlty and John Mason – Rear View

 

 

 

 

Red Box Games: Lesser Undead (Zombies!) Size Comparison.

So recently I got over enough of my butthurt from the initial RBG Kickstarter campaign enough to fish these Zombies out of the box. I still haven’t QAed the rest of the box or anything, and I can’t recall the rest of what I got, but I’ll worry about that later. (I do recall that I didn’t get any horses, though!)

Anyway, as part of the Undead Army that I’m putting together for Marouda, I decided that some Zombies would be quick and easy enough to paint. So just before I prime them and start with the painting, I thought I’d do a scale post and review of them, since Tre’ still hasn’t done one. In fact, I’ve just added a new category to the page so people can find these things more easily since I still get a lot of hits from people searching out this information, so this way it will be a little easier to find.

First up, let me state that these figures that I have are made of Trollcast, not metal, as the current ones are. The current ones appear to be the exact same sculpts however, and anyone who likes finely sculpted, detailed undead miniatures should be thankful that these things still exist in a form that you can purchase them in. Tre’ was actually so disheartened by the whole KS experience that he didn’t want to remaster any of these figures in metal, since he thought that he’d sold as many as he ever could or would of them via the KS campaign. Luckily several of us over on Dakka managed to talk sense into him, and these and other figures are now available to purchase in metal.

Red Box Games Lesser Undead/Zombies. 20mm round base as supplied on left. 25mm “traditional” slotabase on right.

The next most important thing to point out is that the bases these figures come with, and are pictured with over on RBG’s site are 20mm round bases. They are not the more common 25mm round bases that most Warhammer 40k and other range figures have come with for the past 25 years. Tre’ has explained that he uses the most appropriate bases for the figures, with no attempt or intention to mislead anyone. He’s also said that he’ll re-photograph his various figures and show them next to a ruler, etc. Well, that still hasn’t happened, and so it’s down to blog posts like these and the occasional thread on forums to show the actual sizes of RBG’s various models.

Red Box Games Lesser Undead Zombies on 20mm and 25mm Square bases

As you’ve no doubt already checked out – the figures are finely detailed, beautiful sculpts. They’re really not rotting zombies, nor do they have the distended bellies of the recently departed. They’ve got a shrivelled, almost mummified look to them. The nods to more traditional zombie models are the twisted, distorted poses, and the semi-skeletal faces.

As you can see, they fill out both types of 20mm bases quite well, and have a bit of space on the 25mm ones. Since I’m basing all single models of this size on 25mm rounds these days, that’s what I’ll be doing, but at least you can get a better idea of their size than from the typical pictures of them showing them mounted on 20mm rounds.

Red Box Games Lesser Undead/Zombies mounted on several types of base for comparison. 20mm round, 20mm sqare, 25mm round, 25mm Square

At this point, I’ll provide a bunch of photos comparing them to other manufacturers’ zombies, and a few other undead in the hope of making this useful for those looking to use them in their army building or zombie hordes. I should probably do a few updates for my own painted undead models.

Red Box Games, Citadel/GW, RBG, Citadel/GW

As you can see, the height is comparable to GW/Citadel models, but there’s a huge proportional difference.

Red Box Games, Mantic, RBG, Mantic

The Mantic zombies are slighter than the GW ones, but still of a very different set of proportions to the RBG.

Red Box Games, Zombicide, RBG, Zombicide Fatty

A lot of people interested in this genre have Zombicide these days, so here’s a couple of Guillotine Games/CMoN’s Zombicide figures. Despite the Zombicide models being overall a smidgen taller. and the RBG ones nominally being “fantasy” models, they’re still generic enough to fit in with “moderns” like the Zombicide figures, and are close enough in height and proportion to work alongside the board game’s figures,  Just paint them as though they’re wearing torn jeans and hospital gowns.

Red Box Games, Last Night on Earth, RBG, LNoE

Flying Frog Productions’ Last Night on Earth is also a popular and fun Zombie game. Shame they seem too incompetent to figure out how to ship their Kickstarter products to Australia (though they’ll do it immediately with free shipping if you buy from their webstore!) Anyway, their figures are a little taller than Red Box’ ones, but close enough so that they would fit in together.

Red Box Games, D&D Miniatures, RBG, Harlequin (Black Tree)

Both the D&D Miniature (Wizards of the Coast) and the Harlequin are quite different in proportion to the RBG Zombies. Both are far close to Mantic and Citadel scale.

 

Now for some larger lineups. I had to set up to take several photos since the line got too long. Just be aware to look at not only the head heights but the base heights as well. I can see I forgot to add Mantic’s Zombies in these larger group shots. Ah well, they’re still up the page. C’est la vie!

Zombicide, Red Box Games, Citadel, Studio Miniatures, Last Night on Earth, Harlequin, D&D Miniatures, Reaper (Bones)

Red Box Games, Studio Miniatures, RGB, Zombicide, RBG, Zombicide (Fatty), RBG

Red Box Games, Citadel, RBG, Citadel, D&D, RBG

Red Box Games, Reaper (Bones), RBG, Harlequin, RBG, Mantic Undead Wraith, RBG, Last Night on Earth

 

And now for more of a wider view against other appropriate figures:

Red Box Games, Citadel’s Lord of the Rings Barrow-Wight, RBG, Barrow-Wight

Citadel’s pretty true-scale Barrow-Wights absolutely dwarf the RBG models. This was a surprise to me since these LotR models are quite slight in many ways. I guess they are very much powerful hero-types, though.

Red Box Games, Citadel LotR Army of the Dead (Metal), RBG, Citadel

Again, I was surprised at how large the Army of the Dead figures seem in comparison to the RBG ones. I think an important thing to note here is that even though Citadel’s Lord of the Rings/Hobbit line is nominally “truescale”, there’s still been quite a substantial variety in their sizes between their sculpts over the past 15 years…

Red Box Games, Citadel Warrior of Minas Tirith, RBG, Citadel

…as can be seen from these Warriors of Minas Tirith. Tre’s Zombies are perfectly scaled alongside these guys.

Red Box Games, Wargames Foundry “Greek” Skeleton, RBG, Foundry

Back to the undead. These WIP Wargames Foundry figures are the only fully appropriate ones I have from this company to share the comparison shot with the RBG zombies. As you can see, these are a little smaller than their GW cousins, but still much larger proportionately than the RBG zombies. Nature of the beat when you’re talking about Skeletons in metal, I’m afraid.

Red Box Games, Citadel “Skeleton Horde” Plastic Skeleton, RBG, Citadel

Citadel’s Skeleton Horde came out in 1986 – one of Games Workshop’s first plastic kits. It was used as the mainstay for their Undead range for a solid 25-odd years afterwards. The Zombies shown above have their slightly odd proportions due to being compatible with these skeletons. Like the Foundry Skeletons above, thicker pieces was needed for sturdiness, but makes them wildly disproportionate to the RBG models.

Red Box Games, Citadel Tomb Kings, RBG, Citadel

Citadel’s line of Tomb Kings Undead are also scaled to be compatible with the very old Skeleton Horde figures above. As such, and with their additional armour, they loom hugely over the RBG Zombies. Also note the smaller height of the bases used by the Tomb Kings here.

Red Box Games, Reaper (Bones), RBG, Reaper

Most of Reaper’s Undead (Bones pictured here) are often slighter than GW’s ones, but still much chunkier than the RBG line. Though as an apparent exception, the unpainted Reaper Bones Zombie up the page looks quite compatible with the RBG ones. Reaper’s range is another that’s grown over decades with many dozens of sculptors in that time (including Tre’ Manor), so like the various Citadel ranges, there’s no “true” consistent scale or style.

Red Box Games, Citadel Ghoul (metal), RBG, Citadel

One of my favourite sets of Citadel’s undead ranges through the years has been these metal Ghouls. While they’re quite lithe and thin compared to much of the Warhammer range, they still look far bulkier than the RBG zombies.

Red Box Games, Fireforge Foot Templar, RBG, Fireforge

Since I had these open and partly-assembled, I thought I’d add in some of these as well. Fireforge’s historical figures are typically “truescale” as so many others are, and would scale well with the Lord of the Rings models, but again appear rather “heroic” compared to the Red Box models. Especially in their head size.

Red Box Games, Citadel Plastic Space Marine, RBG

And lastly, both because it appears to be the law when it comes to figure sizing pictures, and because it is actually incredibly useful for many people, a Plastic (Multipart) Citadel Space Marine. This one is on the traditional 25mm base.

 

So…

Should you buy them? Only you can answer that. Hopefully I’ve included enough comparative photos and notes to make some buying choices a little easier. I personally have no regrets on having picked these up in the KS. I’ll mix in a couple of Zombicide’s Zombie Dogs to make a unit for the KoW Undead Army. Since I’ve got a ton of Mantic and Citadel Zombies, it’s doubtful I’ll need to buy more, since having my units all the exact same size isn’t something terribly important as long as each distinct unit looks good (I’m using Historical miniatures and GW ones in these armies, after all). For less than three bucks each though – for metals of this quality, I’ve got no hesitation in recommending them to people on the fence about them. Just be forewarned about their size, and ok with it before ordering them.