4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Cave Squigs and Hunters/Herders (Kev Adams) (1993, 2003?) (Neglected Model June ’19)

Kev Adams Squigs, Squig Herders.

What? Who’s 5 editions behind? No, you’re 5 editions behind! What 26 years late? Speak up, sonny, I can’t hear you!

Kev Adams Squig Herders.

Remember all that discussion on how many models/figures the DAK multibased models count(ed) as? Take a look at these, then! At this point we’ve clearly got 6 complete figures, produced as three models. How many will I count them as? I might do a 3(6) for them. Seems fair enough, I guess. Just look at them, though. Look at the pair in the middle! What’s worse is I’ve still got a set of three to paint. Three bloody gobboes all as one (assembled, but multi-part) model.

Kev Adams Squig Herders.

I based them on rolled-edge 50mm bases because I didn’t want to go with square “horse” bases, 40mm rounds looked too small and 60mm ones looked way too big. I didn’t have any 50mm bases at the time, but regardless, the rolled-edge ones seemed to give the figures a large enough base for the gobbos and their hunting spears while also not too much empty ground.

Aside from that, I’ve had these Herders for quiiiite a long time as alluded to above, and they’ve been slowly worked on and mostly-neglected for so much more than a decade. That gets worse, in it’s own way as well. See those 16 Squigs? Yeah, two of them are from a later release wave, with a different sculpting style – I bought 1 blister of those. The others are elsewhere in the case of the third squig, and not painted in the case of the gobboes, but aside from that…

Kev Adams Squigs

…hese squigs have been properly finished to the point where you see them here since sometime in 2013, and they’ve never been seen on the blog until right now. You see, back in those days, I really didn’t show a model off until the unit it belonged to was completely finished. I’d basically never ever show single models if I thought they should be part of a unit. Just finish the unit, and show them off then! Yes, they’ve been done for 5 years but I haven’t shown them at all. At this point, I think you can see the flaw in that little system…

Kev Adams Squigs

If it were a “complete some units” month, they’d all count as part of the completed units (I’ve just shoved them all together up top), though not as models completed this year. Because they weren’t. So having said that, the Squigs don’t count towards the month’s total, nor do they get to be in the wrap-up posts nor the year’s-end post. But they do get to see the light of day here, and in this case, it’s enough!

Kev Adams Squigs

Now I just need to figure out where to store them all now that they’re unified and ready to roll! Maybe they can even meet the table as part of an AoS Warcry Gloomspite Gitz force, made up of old-school Night Gobboes?

D&D Monster Manual 13: Castle Ravenloft Flesh Golem & Oldhammer Skeleton “Hellblade” – Diabolical December ’18 meats Deadcember.

Oldhammer Undead Skeleton Hellblade Undead Chariot Crew, D&D Dungeons and Dragons Castle Ravenloft Flesh Golem

Recently, I was reading one of Alex’ posts over at Leadbaloony where he noted that he was going to try and paint up something for Deadcember. (Though nothing in months for these challenges anymore.. sniff 😢). Anyway, I decided to see what Deadcember actually was. Or is. I mean, I can guess, but it’s always good to have a proper look around. It seems to be predominantly a weightlifting thing, where weight enthusiasts do a lot of deadlifting …but a few google ranks down, also a painting challenge that has run for several years, though I couldn’t really find a central “hub” for it, despite a few blogs participating over the last couple of years along with mentions/threads over on Lead Adventure and the Oldhammer forums.

Oldhammer Undead Skeleton Hellblade Undead Chariot Crew

Hooray! Exclaimed Hellblade the Skellington.

Oldhammer Undead Skeleton Hellblade Undead Chariot Crew

So simple then, from what I saw. Paint some undead. As it happened most conveniently, I had this skellington on my desk. Known as “Hellblade”, and originally one of the five interchangeable crew from the classic metal Undead Chariot. He had been sitting around, part painted and unloved for some time. Years in fact. I know I rebased him a few years ago, and there had been some repainting involved. So yesterday I re-repainted his bone cloaks into the red of the current Undead Army, did all of the necessary highlighting to his bones and black robes, and then hit the shield with some freehanding, and he was done. So after an hour or two, easy as that, a model that had sat around ignored for literally years was done. This is why I started doing these challenges, and also why I’ll try to tack on anyone else’s challenges that I happen to see that aren’t those “start-to-finish” ones that just leave me with more half-painted figures.

D&D Dungeons and Dragons Castle Ravenloft Flesh Golem

D&D Dungeons and Dragons Castle Ravenloft Flesh Golem

So, with Mister Hellblade the Skellington done, I looked around the table for something else that was achievable. The Flesh Golem was there. That bloody Flesh Golem from the Castle Ravenloft D&D boardgame that Marouda, Pyro and Orez played through back in 2012-3 or so, which is why I’ve (badly) sculpted flagstones onto his base. Yeah, he’s been sitting around for a long time, too. Mediocre story short, I also knuckled down and got him completed as well. Done.

This isn’t the last of 2018’s models to show. There’s still a couple more to go, but they shall have to hit the page in the opening days of next year!

And on that note, as it’s getting to the business end of New Year’s Evening here, I wish you all the best for the remains of 2018, and the best for 2019. I’ll see you on the other side!

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World/Warhammer Forge (Monster March ’18)

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World

Here’s my final entry for the Monster March painting challenge being run by Swordmaster over at Path of an Outcast. As I noted yesterday when I posted up the giant Burrower, I had to shelve the idea of getting that Dracoliche and Bone Giant finished this month when I got sick, and so turned to a pair of models that didn’t need quite as much finesse to paint. The first was of course the Borrower, that I shared a couple of days ago. That one was painted start-to-finish, by virtue of being a rather simple model.

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World

This one, while equally a big bastard, is actually a lot more complex. Or to put it another way, allows for more of a complex paint job, while still keeping it rather simple. You could easily get away with a straightforward spray black/grey and drybrush the hell out of the thing, and end up with a decent looking model. I tried that initially, but it didn’t do it for me. Or more precisely, I didn’t think it was appropriate for this model – for me, anyway. More on that a little later.

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World

I originally picked this thing up several years ago with a thought to using it in Kings of War, using a “Giant” Profile or some such and running it alongside my Orcs. As such, I’d planned to give it a square base and so forth. I actually started to paint it in December, with a thought to using it as a personal “Stretch Goal” for Painting Decembuary, but given how December turned out, it didn’t get finished, and then just sat around for a couple of months, occasionally having a bit more done to it before I put it aside again. I had it based on a large oval base at one point, as I think that’s how the reissued version from Forge World comes, but I wasn’t entirely sure at the time, and so ordered a bunch of large bases from Reaper. When they arrived in April, I wrenched him off the oval and glued him down to the large circle, and it slowly took shape from there.

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World

On not wanting to keep the paint simple, I have a rationale – See, this model is a great big expensive chunk of Forge World resin. If I’m going to (yeah, foolishly) pay that sort of money for a single model, then I want to make sure I’m really doing it justice. There are a whole lot of glyphs carved onto the model. Some of the original studio paintjobs pretty much ignore them, but the current Forge World paintjob overdoes the colourfulness of the model, if not the glyphs. With this in mind, I painted them with thinned-down transparent paints from Warcolors, and finished them later by drybrushing my top-layer stone colour over them to make them stand out a little less and give them an old, worn look.

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World

After all of the rock painting was done, it was time to sort out the sculpted-on moss. I really hate sculpted-on moss. It tends to look shitty if painted. (The moss on the new Forge World studio example is positively glowing). So you’re left with pretending that it’s stone and ignoring it, painting it green and trying to ignore how bad it looks, or trying to do something with it by covering it – which is what I’ve done before and attempted again here. I’m not 100% sure if it’s the right choice, but it looks better to me than the other two options (that happened to be stages on the path to this.) Now he looks a bit like Moss Man from Masters of the Universe. So… hrm. So yeah, I wish they would skip the sculpted-on moss.

Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork): Forge World

The plan was to post this guy up yesterday, but it was close to midnight when I got the last of the flock onto him, as it took several applications. The stuff then had to dry, and, well, you get the idea. Easier to let it dry properly and then post him up in the morning. In the end, thanks to this painting challenge, I’ve gotten motivated enough to finally finish this model, giving me a second large beastie worthy of the moniker “Monster March”. There aren’t really any easy 40k stats for him (maybe a Greater Daemon without wings or spells?) but he’ll be usable in both Kings of War and Age of Sigmar. Right when I get around to playing either of them again.

More 4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netters and Clubbers

These Netters and Clubbers were completed very recently. They’d been sitting on my painting desk what must have been close to a year (so not long, relatively), and were started shortly after the initial pair were completed in July 2015. I recall that I was looking on eBay for some “skull” style netters before finding some in amongst my unpainted Orcs and Goblins. Luckily I hadn’t found any for the right price, so I saved myself a little bit of cash there.

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

Two Skull-Netters and a Clubber

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

Rear view of the green trio

While I enjoy looking at other people’s orcs and goblins painted in more muted tones, and shades of olive and ochre, my own Citadel goblinoids are probably always going to be painted with the bright, unrealistic skin tones that GW has used since the late 1980’s through to today – and I make no apologies for that. These models date from about 1991, and as with the Slayers I’ve been painting recently, I’m happy for them to be painted as an echo of the White Dwarf magazines of the time.

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

A twinned pair of Netters

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

Rear view of the pair

The group shot of the goblins so far – Naturally after finishing them, I’ve just found a bunch more of these guys – 2 more netters and three more clubbers. That will give me 12 of them in total once they’re painted – enough to fill a regiment tray. I’ll just need to work out what they can actually be used as in a KoW army…

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

The whole gang of Night Goblin Netters and Clubber …so far!





4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

This pair was painted some and photographed some time ago – July 2015 – but for some reason the post never went up. In the interests of content – and conflict given the Slayers in my last post – here they are!

Like the other Goblins from the era, they’re just this side off of “Oldhammer” to the purists, but as I’ve said before – they’re close enough for me, as they were some of the first models released for 4th edition, during the time that Kev “Goblinmaster” Adams was still the sculptor of all things goblinoid.

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

Clubber and Netter

I’ve also given them the flame effect on their robe hoods, in pretty much the same style as I’ve used on my Night Goblin Fanatics. I’m wanting to put together a small Orc & Goblin force for Kings of War using my old metals. I just need to find some appropriate unit entries for the wilder stuff like these guys – not to mention do a hell of a lot of painting!

4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Netter and Clubber

Rear View!

I’ve got some more of these guys on the boil, so hopefully I’ll have them up here sooner rather than later!






4th Edition WHFB Night Goblin Champion and Musician

This pair of Goblins are from 4th Edition Warhammer Fantasy Battle. Not quite “proper” Oldhammer, but close enough for me, as they were some of the first models out in that time, and more impoerantly are Kev “Goblinmaster” Adams sculpts.

4th Edition Night Goblin Warhammer Oldhammer Night Goblins

Night Goblin Champion and Musician

I skipped freehanding a shield for the champion, and used a sculpted shield this time. I did it for two reasons in about equal measure – being too lazy to freehand one, and the (bright) sculpted shield being totally in keeping with the era and nature of these figures. My concession to the “red period” of GW which these models helped to usher in is the chestnut/red-brown that I use for the boots and staves.

4th Edition Night Goblin Warhammer Oldhammer Night Goblins

Night Goblin Backsides

I also skipped adding flames to the rims of their hoods. I might keep that sort of thing for the Fanatics, Clubber/Netter guys and some of the Squig guys. I’ve also disliked the checkered pattern that GW gave their Orcs and Orks around that time, so you’ll rarely if ever see that sort of thing on my greenskin models.

There should probably be a standard bearer to go with these guys. If I manage to find him and get a banner painted up, I’ll show the three of them together. For now, it’s just the pair!

The One About The Age of Sigmar

So here goes.

With all of the drama, wailing and gnashing of teeth about Age of Sigmar, the freshly-minted replacement for the venerable Warhammer Fantasy Battle. I’ve been tossing up writing a little about it myself – I’ve certainly participated in some of the discussions, and frankly, I’ve found the extremes of both sides rather amusing. On one hand you have the WHFB faithful – angry, ragequitting, and simply not willing to play a game that’s been replaced and discontinued. On the other hand you have the new converts – so enamoured by the (lovely) new models and provision of free, simple rules that they’re overwhelmed by the new shinies and can’t wait to move on.

In the middle, there are an awful lot of people wondering aloud about whether they should rebase their existing WHFB armies, wondering how the tournament scene for AoS might work, and unsure about what to do.

Warhammer Fantasy Battle 3rd Edition. AKA “Oldhammer”

As for me, I gave away WHFB years ago. I started in 3rd edition – now enjoying a renaissance as “OldHammer”. I gave it away during 4th/5th and HeroHammer since I hated the dominance of heroes and magic (and magic items). I wanted to play a game of fantasy troops, war machines and monsters with Heroes and Wizards acting as support. So I’ve got no current attachment to the game, but I do have an attachment to the background and fluff. From WHFB3, Slaves to Darkness, Zaragoz and Konrad through to Bill King’s books and (almost) everything produced for the FFG edition of WHFRP. Not to mention a shitload of the miniatures. So with that, I am sad. I’m sad to see the 30 years of world building flushed away, but more importantly, I’m sad that many of the models I’d have liked to purchase will be discontinued and become more difficult to source – even via eBay.

On the other hand, the published materials still all exist. They’re all still available, both through retailers, eBay, the secondhand market – and of course, “digital” sources – should it come to that. That’s how and why 3rd – aka Oldhammer is still a thing. And to be frank, I don’t know how important it is for us to receive any new background and fluff for the Warhammer world. The whole thing about The Old World is that it’s a melange of many other sources and inspirations anyway – and it’s pretty much complete. If anyone wants to run Cathay or Nippon, there’s nothing stopping any one of us from combining some real-world history with Warhammer-ish fiction for our own army background. People have been doing the very same for role-playing games for decades, and it’s still done on a daily basis for people’s homebrew Space Marine Chapters.

Willy Miniatures “Griff” Fantasy Football Figure

So… much like Mordheim, Necromunda and Blood Bowl – if you enjoy WHFB 1-8 or any combination of them – there’s no reason to ragequit or throw the baby out with the bathwater – just keep on playing! (Though I’m looking out for nicely priced /ragequit armies!) With AoS retaining much of the WHFB catalogue, at least in the near term, and an increasing preponderance of fantasy-friendly army figure suppliers out there (Shieldwolf, Mantic, Avatars of War, Reaper, Perry…) there should be no problem building Warhammer armies for years to come. We’re not in an EPIC 40,000 or Battlefleet Gothic situation here, where appropriate figures might be difficult to get hold of. Necromunda. Blood Bowl. Inquisitor (28). Mordheim. “Oldhammer”. Even GorkaMorka. All discontinued GW games that live on easily through easily-accessible models despite the lack of “official” support. The thing that will hurt the tournament scene is if players stop playing – and let’s be honest, that was becoming a thing for WHFB anyway.

Shieldwolf HIPS plastic Mountain Orc Infantry regiment.

If you’re in the fence. Interested in AoS but still want to play WHFB. Too bloody easy. The rules don’t ask you to rebase your models, so unless you really want to do so for aesthetic reasons, there’s no need to do so. In AoS you (oficially) measure from the figure – not the base (though I’ll be house-ruling that particular bit of silliness!)

If you’re over Warhammer 8th due to Workshop’s shenanigans – that’s ok as well. There have never been more options on the horizon for fantasy players. Obviously, there’s Kings of War (my personal game of choice). Shieldwolf is working on a set of mass battle game rules with square bases and casualty removal. the WHFB3/Oldhammer community is (mostly) welcoming of new players even if their models aren’t all 25 years old. For skirmish, the pot is already deep – and about to be even deeper. There are rulesets like Celtos and Wrath of Kings available right now. SAGA and Lion Rampant – both historical rulesets but ones that work well for fantasy warbands – and Dragon Rampant (December) and a rumoured Fantasy variant of SAGA on the way. Mordheim, as mentioned before is still very much a thing. Song of Blades and Heroes (and its umpteen variants). This is just off the top of my head and without getting into “maybe one day” rulesets like the ones mooted by Red Box Games and Minion Miniatures and so forth.

Converted SigMarine Model from Khorne’s Eternal Hunt.

As for Age of Sigmar – I’m certainly willing to give it a go myself, and from the couple of YouTube reports I’ve watched, it looks like it could be a bit of quick, easy and simple fun – nothing wrong with that at all. And I have to admit that I like the SigMarines – they look perfect for use as KoW Basileans in some form, I’ve seen some amazing conversions using them as a base, and to be quite blunt – I like them on their own merit as well. They’re not Empire, but then they’re not supposed to be. Similarly, I’ve always had a soft spot for much of the overdone chaos and Khorne stuff GW has created, so I’m keen to get my damn dirty paws on those as well. I’ve got a pair of boxes winging their way to me still. Hopefully they’ll be here before August. The thing is I’m thinking I might need another 2 boxes on top of that to sate my desire to have fodder available for 40k conversions as well as ones to use as intended. Hm… maybe next pay.

My main concern with the AoS rules (and it’s a big one) is the lack of any kind of balanced points or other method of creating equal armies. I’m all for friendly games with Marouda and my friends who come over, but even then I don’t want to be horribly outmatched, and I certainly don’t want to outmatch her. Because a Goblin ≠ a High Elf Swordmaster and I have both on my shelf and want to have the freedom to use them all quickly and easily – and above all – fairly.

Should I end up playing around with it, some rules – like measure from the model and not the base will simply be ignored wholesale from the get-go – but even that description shows what I think of AoS – I’m happy to play it if we can balance it, but won’t take it in any way seriously. Not that games are SRS BZNS anyway, but this seems to be on a par with Munchkin in terms of taking it seriously. It’s certainly not going to be on a par with a WHFB or KoW or SAGA – which is of course why we have angst and /ragequits in the first place.

For people affronted by the “silly” rules found in many of the free BattleScrolls but otherwise interested in the game – just ignore them. I had a back and forth with a gamer who self-describes as having ASD, and he was rather upset to the point of feeling personally affronted at feeling required to kneel, or fart, or dance, or compare moustaches in order to play. You can always opt out of the silly stuff and just use the mechanics. It seems to me though, that most people spending their time grousing about the silly rules were just using them as an excuse to bitch about AoS, when I can’t personally think of anything more easily ignored.

Demigryph Knight by Stuff of Legends/Stuff of Demons


As to why they’re even a thing – it’s obvious. The silly amateur-theatre rules are there for the sake of in-store sales in GW retail. Simply put, they are “WAAAAAAGH” writ large. If I were the right age and mentality to go into a GW store for demo games, I’m sure that these silly rules with an (over) enthusiastic redshirt GMing the game with a bunch of other like-minded young’uns would combine to create an amazingly fun experience. GW may proudly boast that they do no market research. but they clearly have enough marketing staff on hand to understand psychology and sociology in retail. Which miniatures do you like the look of? Those Demigryph riders? Those Orc Big’uns? Those Daemons? Sure, you can use them together in a game. Nope, you don’t need any of those boring looking humans in pantaloon pants to have the Demigryphs. That’s why our new game is so awesome! 


I just got my copy of Lion Rampant two days ago, and I’ve already paid for/preordered my copy of Dragon Rampant. Frostgrave may or may not be something I add to my rules collection. Celtos and Wrath of Kings are both just sitting around here, and I’ve got a copy of someone else’s Kings of War PDF because I’m still waiting on Mantic. I’m not short on rules to use with my models. having said that, AoS will probably get played precisely [i]because[/i] it is so simple – at least through the scenarios in the book. Though I have the feeling that I’ll ultimately be treating it like Munchkin in terms of taking it seriously or frequency. Something to have a quick muck around with occasionally and a bit of fun before moving onto the main event of the gaming session.

Mostly though – I’ll be playing SAGA for skirmish – probably with fantasy figures to get started while I work on my Vikings and their little mates, and KoW for the big battles using everything from AoS figures to Citadel to Mantic to Reaper to Shieldwolf to Rackham prepaints and Schleich animals. And everything in between.

If you’re looking for a new game, I obviously recommend trying Kings of War since it’s my game of choice, but if you’re not at all interested – that’s cool as well. Keep playing 8th. GW can’t stop you, after all.