A pair of Kev Adams’ Citadel Orcs (and a little rant!)

Today I have a couple more orcs to share. These were started god-only-knows how long ago (seriously, I have NO idea) and finished during the long period recently where I was too busy and burnt out by work to post much – but still doing what I could to get some painting in.

Citadel Kev Adams Orc with Sword, Big'Un with Mace

The smaller one is from 1993, so the early days of WHFB 4th edition. He’s definitely a variant sculpt to the commander to the 1992 Rock Lobber. I’ll have to find, build and paint it. I may have even painted the other crew in the past few years, so that should theoretically be an easy unit to reunite and complete. Anyway, he’s listed in the Black Catalogue 4 (1994 filled with 1993 models) as “Orc with Sword 4”.

Citadel Kev Adams Orc with Sword, Big'Un with Mace

The larger orc is found in the same catalogue. Called “Orc Big’Un with Mace”, this pair is clearly from the period where the interesting names of 3rd edition and before had been dropped to be replaced with upfront descriptions. I actually rebased him recently onto the 32mm, as there was quite a lot of overhang on the 25mm round I had him on. I plan to continue to drop large orc models onto the 32mm bases.

Both will eventually find use in various games including Kings of War, though I’m not sure what as exactly for the big guy. Their orc list is lacking pretty severely in decent analogues. When I recently read that KoW plans to add more units to the Orc and Goblin armies, I suggested to some members of the RC that they add something to represent the archetypes of “bigger meaner orcs” and “barbarian/berserker orcs” I was brushed off since they were clearly analogues to Big’Uns/Black Orcs and Savage Orcs, while they want to go in a more original direction. This from the people who started out by bringing us a range of alternative WHFB models for Orcs, Dwarfs, Elves, Chaos Dwarfs and followed up with the highly original Space Orx, Space Skaven, Forge Fathers (Space Dwarfs/Squats), and the Uncharted Empires book filled with rules to use your formerly-WHFB armies. I mean, I appreciate the rules, but don’t even pretend that there’s a precedent of being particularly original.

No, instead, they’re going with this:

The RC wants to do a new unit for each of the core races (main rulebook + Trident Realms + Nightstalkers), but also bring them all up to the same number of units. This means some armies, such as Orcs and surprisingly Goblins, will get multiple new units. This hasn’t been confirmed yet, but Ronnie did agree to flying gore riders for Orcs.

and later:

Also, I should clarify that flying pigs = flying gore riders. Background wise something along the lines of an Abyssal Dwarf interbreeding experiment (like ADwarf halfbreeds) that was uncontrollable by the ADwarfs and a flock escaped, but they’re now bred extensively by Orcs.

Yep. No orc berserkers or bigger, meaner orcs. Those are too derivative! Instead – flying pigs!

Oh, Mantic…

Minotaurs Space Marines – VI Squad

Minotaurs Space Marines - VI Squad

Minotaurs Space Marines – VI Squad

I finally completed the last of these guys a few weeks ago now. As is usual, they (almost) all got started together and then kinda got split into pairs and trios to get through the detailing stage. I enjoy painting marines more as individuals, and it becomes less of a grind, so it works for me.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Vanguard, Puppetswar Temistokles

Minotaurs Space Marines Veteran Sergeant and Plasma Gunner.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Vanguard, Puppetswar Temistokles

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Vanguard, Puppetswar Temistokles

The sergeant is a bit of a bits-delve. New tactical legs, a 2nd edition powerfist, Anvil IndustryVanguard” (not-Mk8) chest and cape and topped with a Puppetswar “Temistokles” head. I had to carve off the lower part of the PW helmet to allow it to fit into behind the gorget. The pteruges on both figures come from Anvil again, and the plasma gun came from my stockpile of FW bits. I went RT-old-school with the Plasma Gun paint since it fit in perfectly with the Minotaurs’ weapon casings – red with copper coils. I considered doing something more fancy with his cloak, but he’s just a sergeant and pure red works for Spartans. I’ll get jiggy with someone else’s cloaks down the road, I’m sure.

I haven’t included a link to Puppetswar because despite their designs being utterly fantastic, their service and casting was atrocious. Probably the worst consumer experience I’ve had from an online retailer. Certainly the worst in years. here’s the gallery of my order, and here’s the saga, more or less as it happened. Here’s a post from another bloke that was made after I ordered mine, but before mine had arrived – so you know, it’s not just me. While I’d like to pick up more of their items and see if they’ve improved, I’m just not willing to send more money their way after all of that.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Vanguard

Minotaurs Heavy Bolter Gunner and Corporal

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Vanguard

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Vanguard

Something interesting about this squad is that with the exception of the Sergeant, they are all recycled marines – all of the torsos and legs came from Nerdfest09 over on Dakka, when I purchased the scraps of his Blood Angels/Flesh Eaters force a few months ago. The heavy bolter guy was actually complete and painted by Nerdy and sent as a gift, so he had more of a touch-up to match the rest of the squad (and a FW resin shoulder added along with a new “Spartan” head replacing the bare head that will in turn go on a Carachodon or Flesh Tearer in the future).

The others were in various states, and so most have new heads and all have new arms, as they tended to be more CCW-geared – though a few were headless and many were ‘armless anyway. I bought a couple of sets of Minotaurs pads off FW several years ago, and between the sets there were a few miscasts. FW were kind enough to replace them (their CS is pretty damn good) and so given the theme of this squad, I used a few of those pads here as well. Hopefully they don’t stand out unless you’re really looking for them! The second marine here is the “Corporal” who will be the second combat squad leader. He was chosen because of the small tabard and MK8 torso.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Spartan Head

Minotaurs Space Marines.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Spartan Head

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Spartan Head

These three are just standard tactical Space Marine troopers. I tried to match up the shoulder pad types on these guys. Another Anvil Spartan head makes an appearance here as well.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Spartan Head

Minotaurs Space Marines.

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Spartan Head

Minotaurs Space Marines, Forge World Minotaurs Shoulder Pad, Anvil Industry Spartan Head

Finally the last three of the squad, including another Spartan head and one marine that had been given some “battle damage” to one of his armoured greaves. The BA arm and bolter came out fine when painted in a non-BA style, and really I’m very happy with how these guys came out – especially as they’re almost all “recycled” marines given new life. As these guys were completed in September, they count as an “additional unit” for my Tale of Gamers painting challenge. I need to try and get something finished this month for the challenge, but it’s going to be bloody hard to do so…

Next up for the Minotaurs will be a Librarian, Captain (or other officer type) and a Dreadnought. I’m waiting on a Devastators box to steal an open right hand for the Captain, and I need to get some very thin plasticard for the Dread, so both of those have stalled out. Once I get back into painting then, I think the Librarian will be next up…